hunterofsquirrels
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 Posted: Saturday, 19 March 2005 05:46PM |
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In the demo it seemed like strong and weak attacks did the same amount of damage. For example it takes two strong attacks to kill a rat demon just like it takes two weak attacks to kill one. So I was wandering if the only difference between the two is the strong attacks' ability to break shields and the weak attacks' greater speed? |
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Doritos25
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Posted: Saturday, 19 March 2005 05:58PM |
No
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is-Deharter
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Posted: Saturday, 19 March 2005 06:44PM |
Doritos, could you be a little more specific....... uh I don`t feel you made it very clear......
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Doritos25
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Posted: Saturday, 19 March 2005 07:15PM |
Quote: Posted 03/19/05 17:46:27 (GMT) by hunterofsquirrels
So I was wandering if the only difference between the two is the strong attacks' ability to break shields and the weak attacks' greater speed?
No. Strong attacks are, by definition, stronger than weak attacks. I don't think the demo fully illustrates the differences between the two.
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*BioWare*: Here's an idea for a game... An RPG where you're a pirate. You start out as a measly deckhand but you eventually become the Captain of your own ship, crew and all. Swords, islands, ghosts, treasure, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum.Edited By Doritos25 on 03/19/05 19:16 |
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hunterofsquirrels
Joined: 18 Mar 2005 |
Posted: Saturday, 19 March 2005 11:16PM |
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seeing as bioware has not fully defined strong and weak attacks for us, I don't think you can quote the definition. Perhaps the demo just doesn't show it well but from everything I've seen in the demo so far (and i looked real close) they do the same amount of damage. Which means that weak attacks are actually better for dishing out damage since you can do them faster and in a combination. I think strong attacks are just to break through enemy defenses. |
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ukpik_090
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Posted: Sunday, 20 March 2005 12:29AM |
I haven't actually played the demo, but maybe the rat demon is too weak. Lets say it had 12 HP, and a weak attack did 7 damage, and a strong attack did 11. You would still need two attacks, whether you used strong or weak. If a demon had 19 HP, then you'd need 3 weak attacks, but only two strong ones. Maybe it's all relative, but I don't actually know. hope it helps anyways
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hunterofsquirrels
Joined: 18 Mar 2005 |
Posted: Sunday, 20 March 2005 12:47AM |
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Strong attacks and weak attacks both halve their health bar so I don't think it could be that. |
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ukpik_090
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Posted: Sunday, 20 March 2005 01:07AM |
Hmm... Maybe one of those Bioware guys will GET OVER HERE and tell us. Any way, my computer's to slow to look at all the screens, but like u said, this game shows a health bar for the enemy? that's good.
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is-Deharter
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Posted: Sunday, 20 March 2005 01:35AM |
In the dinished version of the game, where there be an option that allows me to see the exact number of dmg that I am doing? Personally, I like to see how much more dmg I am doing from Level up to Level up.
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is-Deharter
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Posted: Sunday, 20 March 2005 01:37AM |
In the finished version of the game, will there be the option to see the actual number od damage you are doing? Personally, I like to see how much damage I am dishing out from level up to level up, even tho it might decrease the realism.
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ImmortalLotus
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Posted: Sunday, 20 March 2005 03:21AM |
Hmm... I'd like to know about the Strong vs weak thing too..
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Chris Priestly
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Posted: Sunday, 20 March 2005 07:47AM |
Keep in mind the demo was from well before Xmas and was not yet correctly balanced.
Strong attacks do more damage and can break through blocks, but they are slower and can be interrupted. Weak attacks do less damage and don't break blocks, but are much faster, so yuou can usually hit more often. They are also harder (but not impossible) to interrupt.
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hunterofsquirrels
Joined: 18 Mar 2005 |
Posted: Sunday, 20 March 2005 07:41PM |
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That's good to hear. The demo either doesn't have different damages or it's just hard to notice a difference. Weak attacks would be too powerful if they did the same amount of damage as the strong attack. |
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